You can also get colour casts with particular ink/paper combinations, and you can also get metamerism – different casts in different lights.If your original is genuinely B&W** then it’s an ink / paper / printer problem.
BTW there were HP printers with several grey inks as well, and the one I used to use produced beautiful B&W prints on Ilford Galerie Smooth Perl paper, as well as beautiful colour prints. I don’t know what the current HP lineup is like, and I suspect Canon probably have some printers with grey inks as well.
**EDIT – if you have an eye dropper tool, the R,G and B values will be identical for all pixels.
Okay, I have been using a Calibrated monitor for the last week, I use Lightroom’s B&W conversion button and then do all my PP. Then I printed a few A4 size photographs but surprise, they were slightly greenish! I went to a friend thinking there might be something wrong with the printers and he made some prints for me, again, greenish! What am I doing wrong?
a lot of printers will add a colour cast to b/w from making black/grey from combining colours. print grayscale (slower) and it won’t be an issue. there are also some printers that have a few dedicated gray/black inks (epson models)
and I posted this in another thread before I even noticed this B&W tinge “coincidence”, this new troll is talking just like the old troll
If the grey scale image is converted to RGB, do you convert it to the correct RGB color space?
9. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 10:16 AM (in response to Willi Adelberger)
i think the canon above mine adds 2 extra blacks (i have a 9000 the 9500 would be the one)
8. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Willi Adelberger Sep 17, 2015 10:03 AM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
What are the Color Management Policy settings for that document?
14. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Willi Adelberger Sep 17, 2015 12:58 PM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
Exactly why we are having their techs come out to determine what the issue is.
I was using dad’s printer for the first one which is a HP 6500 he tells me and my photographer friend uses a Canon but I am not sure which one.
They are gray scale. Pdf prints in green also. I have last month’s issue open and this month’s open, printing page 10 from both documents to the same printer. The new one is printing in green, the old one is printing correctly. One more clue: I created a new document and added one color image, 2 black & white, some black text and a 50% black border. Only the border printed in green. More info: The new files are also printing green from an Associates computer, but only when sent to our Savin printer. The Epson prints them correctly. What has changed with the new files that makes the Savin print in green? It still prints the older files correctly.
If your monitor is properly calibrated and the files are well prepared, then the printers needed to be profiled using something like Spyder3Print for accurate output. Each printer/ink/paper combination requires a separate profiling.
Oh my… It seems my calibrated profile gives me B&W images that look more greenish than the default profile on the MBP… What do I do?
2. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 16, 2015 9:50 AM (in response to Peter Spier)
But when the output color space is RGB the images are converted to RGB.
1. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Peter Spier Sep 16, 2015 9:46 AM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
6. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 16, 2015 11:10 AM (in response to Claudia McCue)
Are you printing it as B&W? If yes, try printing it as color in printing setup – this many time resolves green tinting issue in B&W print and grey tones might come more natural.
The problem is that every paper/ink/printer combo will produce unique result. It is not really how good the printer is, but how well it is profiled. Unfortunately, the combinations are so vast, doing your own profiling is probably the most pain free approach if best prints are required.
I use Spyder3Print but there might be more affordable alternative.
OK…but the InDesign/Savin interface only gives me two output options RGB or Grayscale.
17. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 1:19 PM (in response to Willi Adelberger)
My commercial print rep reviewed the compete InDesign layout and saw no issues with my color settings. He said the issue had to be with the Print Properties of the Savin printer I was using. Our IT checked the settings and we made an adjustment to how blacks are printed. This made a difference in the black & white images, but not in the gray scale objects/text in the printed document. We are still unclear as to why all new documents are printing with the green tint when old documents print correctly.
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They are the same images used every month in the publication. No change to any color settings that I am aware of.
I don’t know Savin, but this device must have its own output profile, either given or meassured with a specific calibration device. If no calibration is possible no accurate color is possible.
3. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Peter Spier Sep 16, 2015 10:04 AM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
Source? Do you mean Working Spaces? RGB is sRGB IEC61966-2.1 and CMYK: U.S. Web Coated (SWOP) v2
10. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Willi Adelberger Sep 17, 2015 12:31 PM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
13. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 12:46 PM (in response to Willi Adelberger)
11. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 12:37 PM (in response to Willi Adelberger)
7. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 9:43 AM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
4. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 16, 2015 10:21 AM (in response to Peter Spier)
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But what Color Space? RGB is a mode, not a color space. Color Spaces are sRGB, Adobe RGB, ECI RGB and many others. As long as you convert to a wrong color space you will get a color shift. If you leave it in Grey, does it shift also?
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I thinking Noob = Student, that other user with a FF that fell in his lap and didn’t have a clue…
Then tell me where to find the Color Space you are referring to. In InDesign/Color Settings the working space is sRGB as already stated, the Conversion Options are Adobe (ACE) or Microsoft (ICM). In the InDesign/Savin interface the only OUTPUT options I am given are Composite RGB or Composite Grayscale.
I design a monthly magazine. I have for the past 10 years. Suddenly, this month’s issue is printing black & white images with a green tint from InDesign, however, the older issues still print correctly. What is wrong with this issue? I can’t find any difference in my color settings.
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5. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Claudia McCue Sep 16, 2015 10:20 AM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
Another thought: If you are using (say) an Epson printer, start out with Epson paper and Epson inks and see how it goes. Only ever change one thing at a time – paper or ink – and only change it once you have the first combination nailed.
If you can find an HP 8450 printer on Ebay (there are some in the UK that are not selling!) it will do a great job in my experience. I used HP inks and Ilford Galerie Smooth Pearl paper for everything.
It’s one of the few A4 dye ink inkjet printers that the better paper makers have a downloadable paper profile for. Of course there might be newer printers now where that is the case. It produced genuinely neutral B&W prints.
(edit) the heads are also included in the ink cartridges for this printer, so although it makes them more expensive it also means that blocked heads are a non-issue – if cleaning doesn’t fit the problem a new cartridge will.
Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 16, 2015 9:37 AM
Color Management Policies are: RGB: Preserve Embedded Profiles, CMYK: Preserve Numbers (Ignore linked profiles)
15. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign SiberianSiren5 Sep 17, 2015 1:11 PM (in response to Willi Adelberger)
16. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Willi Adelberger Sep 17, 2015 1:15 PM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
I have gust brought my first box of Galerie smooth pearl paper, becouse it is getting good write-up. I have dowm loaded the icc from Ilford, but my prints ar not that good. I have a hp photosmart 8040 printer that is very good.
I am using ilford icc settings, in photoshop SC3, what ilford say to do, i have been doing. When i send a photo over to my free editing program PICAS 3, and use my printers srettings Paper/Qualily tab set to HP Premium high-gloss, and under the color tab Adobe RGB, the photos come out OK? can anyone tell me what i am doing wrong.
Many thanks geoff.
12. Re: Black & White images are printing green from InDesign Willi Adelberger Sep 17, 2015 12:39 PM (in response to SiberianSiren5)
When viewing prints that you are viewing them under the lighting conditions you with to display them under. Colour shifts caused by the Printers simulation of greys and the colour of lighting you are viewing the prints under can have an impact of the perception on neutral tones.
The paper can also have an effect on this however, if you are using an even half decent paper the results should be pretty neutral. This will blow your noodle…B&W chemical darkroom prints are green and white too.
Albeit the colouration is very subtle, but when you dunk them in selenium toner that colour cast is removed and the prints become truly archival and pure in tonality.
Why not try hitting desaturate (or change the color space to grayscale) so that you know for a fact that your image is purely black and white then print again. If its still green, its the printer.You could always post the image here and we can tell you if its green.
Are the images grayscale, or a 4-color B&W? Are you printing from PDFs? Were PDFs exported with different color settings?
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