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Black And White Prints Magenta

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There are a few reasons why your inkjet print might come out with a medium to strong magenta or pink cast or tint. We will cover the possible reasons below.

The Use Black Ink Only is in Preferences and on the Advanced Tab

You’re not alone. I never bother printing b+w on a home printer none of them are up to the job unless you buy an expensive one with extra grey inks. Get them printed at a lab its cheaper and better.

The Epson printer driver has a preview feature that pops up right after you have clicked print. If you are using a printer profile and the Epson preview at the same time, a magenta cast is likely as the Preview breaks the color management process. The print preview feature in Canon and HP drivers does not negatively affect the print process.

I’m not familiar with your printer. However, I do know that on some of the HP printers you can replace the colour cartridge with one that contains three shades of grey. Then there is no reason to have any kind of colour cast.

My own inexpensive HP printer doesn’t have this option but B/W prints still come out just that – all shades of grey between pure black and brilliant white.

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I wouldn’t be as definite as that, it really depends on the picture. Granted, you will not get the same range of tones using just one ink rather than 3 or 5, but neither will you get a colour cast.

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Your photo software – set to manage colors and a profile selected.

You might will get a black one, or dare I say it, even worse… A white one

On my SX405, if you go to the Advanced Tab and in Colour Management select Colour Controls, Adobe RGB, Gamma 2.2 then click on Settings. Another window will open allowing you to tweak the colours – click on Slide Bar in Colour Adjustment Method.

There should be something similar on the P50 I would have thought.

Since version 10.6, a substantial percentage of OSX users (who are using printer color profiles) report print quality problems after major OS updates. In short, the color management workflow is interrupted and forces a double color management situation. The result is usually prints with a strong magenta cast. The problem usually resolves after a subsequent minor update.

I use PSE7 and have an Epson P50 printer, loaded with Epson inks and Epson Glossy Photo Paper. I set the parameters so that ‘Photoshop Manages Colors’ and always check that ICM is ‘off’ in the printer preferences.

All my ink cartridges are viable, have plenty of ink in them, and all the nozzles are clean. My monitor is recently calibrated and I’m perfectly happy with the colour prints I get from the printer.However, my B&W prints currently have a magenta cast to them, not at all like the black & white images I see on my computer screen.

This does seem to reduce slightly when the prints have been standing for a little while.The Rendering Intent is set to Relative Colormetric as this usually works best for me. I’ve tried Perceptual and there’s no noticeable difference with the B&W pictures.

Absolute Colormetric appears to impart a slightly blue cast, and Saturation looks similar to the first two.I have noticed that the Source Space is set at sRGB IEC61966-2.1 (whatever that is!).I’m hoping that an experienced printer might suggest what is amiss here and how I can ensure that I produce nice crisp black and white pictures in the future, given the possible limitations of my set-up?

“The P50 is an Epson printer not HP.”Yes I am am well aware of this, which is why I said that I hadn’t had such problems with HP.

When printing, color management can be controlled by your photo software or the printer driver software, but never both. If you set up a situation where both systems are trying to control color output, print quality will almost always be poor. The hallmark sign of “double color management” is a pink or magenta cast to your print.

Thanks Roy, that’s helpful – I’ll give it a go and let you know.

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If you are using a printer profile (ICC profile) and the magenta cast problem appears, check the following:

It isn’t just home printers – I had this problem with Jessops as well.

Are you printing in colour or B&W only?I find on my old 1290s if I print a B&W image using colour I have to turn the Magenta to -3

I don’t think so, I have printed many B&W pictures using just the black ink.

To be able to ‘dial in’ less magenta, I assume I have to choose ‘Printer Manages Colours’ where I would normally have selected ‘Photoshop Manages Colours’? There doesn’t appear to be an appropriate dialogue box in PSE7, otherwise I’d use that of course.

Having suffered what appeared to be a toning / colour cast issue with my mono prints (Canon ip8750) I chanced upon the simple solution of letting the printer manage colours when printing mono, rather than giving Photoshop the reins.

This goes against the accepted practice I know, and may be frowned upon, but its a damn sight better than using expensive ink and A3 paper to churn out a print that you’re disappointed with and never look at again surely?

Thanks Fen; I’m not sure if the P50 offers the sort of choices you’ve outlined above, but I’ll certainly have a good look.

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The P50 is an Epson printer not HP.Rupert49, when the print dialogue comes up, put a tick in “Use Black Ink Only” and try that. If you don’t do that, the printer will try to make black by mixing the other colours, and you will probably get a colour cast.

There are not very many colour inkjet printers that can print a B&W image without a cast of some sort. As the OP said, get it printed commercailly.

Discussion in ‘Digital Image Editing & Printing’ started by Rupert49, Nov 1, 2011.

Okay… I’ll try and explain better Your printer is a colour printer.The file you want to print is a B&W picture.If you send it normally to the printer, the printer will use all the colours to make a B&W image.

This does actually give a better tone (believe it or not!) but sometimes the magenta can be a bit too much so you have to do some tests to find out what setting you need for the magenta ink. I found on the Epson 1290s that a setting of -3 worked best.

Or, when you send the file to the printer you can click on “Use Black Ink Only” which will force the printer to only use the Black ink to produce your image.

When using a printer color profile, do not use the Epson print preview feature. See below for an example of where you will find the control:

You will NOT get good results using black only.. I know you said you did but are you certain you have turned of colour management in the printer dialogue as it really sounds like double profiling, As Fen said as a last result dial in less magenta but thats only really a work around, I have used Epson printers for about 12 years and wouldnt use any other but havent experience with your P50 so cant go into specifics really.

.. sorry

Your printer driver – color management in the printer driver must be turned off. Help on this topic is in our color profiles support.

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Not quite sure of the question, Fen! The P50 is a colour printer of course, but the old photographs that I am currently printing are B&W (that is, old sepia toned prints that I desaturated to bring them back to B&W).

I assumed that when I print a B&W image, it’s mostly the black ink cartridge that’s discharging. You’ll probably tell me I’m way off beam there, and when I think about it I don’t really know how a B&W picture can be printed using only the black ink cartridge, since the picture is made up of 255 shades of grey.

Are we talking about the difference between an RGB file and a Grayscale file? And if so, what can I do about it, because at the moment it’s just clever words!

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