Future Of Black And White Film Photography

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Future Of Black And White Film Photography

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Neil Kesterson:There are repair shops that could fix that F3. I hope for more film cameras to be made just like the impossible project company and Fujifilm. 13 months ago (permalink)

Rodrigo Betancor: I have seen it and you could use your smart phone to control the camera. 13 months ago (permalink)

i think as long as hollywood shoots on film, there will continue to be some sort of color film available. I see slide film going away in the next 5 or so years, which is a shame as i love slides. I’ve been hordking for years now. color neg maybe 10-15 years. I see B&W being the standing elder statesman. Digital cant touch B&W when printed. it just looks bad. and most people i know that shoot B&W still enlarge their negs, which is how it should be. So my sad outlook is in 20 years we will have only fresh B&W film available, but at much higher prices than now. I really do hope Im wrong though! 12 months ago (permalink)

Hi, Got an old FM2, and there there is something fishy with the inside, where…

I suggest you enjoy the hell out of film shooting while you can, especially while some of the best Nikons ever made are selling for peanuts. Even if film survives, you probably won’t be able to afford it anymore.I own a Minox subminiature camera. Film and processing for such cameras still exists … one source in the USA, one in Germany. Total cost to buy one roll, and turn it into photos, is about 50 USD. Twenty years ago, I actually used my Minox as a camera. Can’t afford that anymore. (Now we all use much better submini cams made by Apple or Samsung or Huawei, but that’s a topic for some other group.) 17 months ago (permalink)

Casio’s Smart Outdoor Watch is out soon, and the company’s splittable FR100 action camera works with it — you can use the watch as a viewfinder instead of this detachable screen.

Last year I tried to counterbalance the lack of news at CP+ by shooting film to cover it. This year I had a little less time at Japan’s biggest photo show, but I thought I’d try to do something different again.

Fifty years from now, film shooters may take a cue the Cubans – keep the old technology going by any means necessary. I think the last new 35mm camera will hit the shelves in the next five years. As far as films from major manufacturers, medium format will survive about another ten or fifteen, and large format may be around in some form until 2050. I think it will be up to small scalable companies to offer boutique films. Heck, there might even be a do-it-yourself film maker you could buy (similar to a 3D printer). It’s wonderful to see this recent “surge” in new films, but I don’t know how long the big film companies can sustain it because the bulk of people using the lower grade “fun” films and cameras seem to be young. Once they start having families and get busy with their careers, they will abandon it. Not to be depressing, but I think we’re in the last golden age of film. Now I’ve got to get back to work stripping down my donor F3 to find that part I need. 25 months ago (permalink)

Feininger’s Cat (Thanks for 500000+ views!): You could find plenty of cameras on Ebay. 13 months ago (permalink)

Attendees testing Olympus cameras. The Pen F logo is so metal.

In my opinion it has nothing to do if we continue shooting or not. It depends entirely on which stocks produce more profit. Marx recognised that capital tend to maximise its profit. Just not making a loss or a sound, even continuous profit is not enough. We can shot as much film and film cameras as we could afford, will still not change anything as long as shares for petrol or lets say cosmetics (see Fuji) are more profitable the investors will move there. 25 months ago (permalink)

trash-star:I spoke to the Nikon representative this year and they are aware that people are still shooting film and I know film manufacturing is on the rise. It will seem that film will never go away and I love film. 13 months ago (permalink)

destroya68: I am hoping that we will still have film available whether it is color or black & white. Kodak announce that they will be selling again their ektachrome by the fourth quarter of this year for movie film and 35mm film. I am looking forward to using it. Ferrania is coming out with panchromatic film this year. It is the P30 and maybe I will try it but I need a good lab that would process it properly. One more, check out the website which is called the Film Photography Project because they do sell film from their website. Originally posted 12 months ago. (permalink) evelasq12 edited this topic 12 months ago.

Brian Russell (LRPS): Love their HP5 Plus which I am currently using for my black and white project. 13 months ago (permalink)

Impossible Project just created a new polaroid camera. 25 months ago (permalink)

Ha Ha. I still use one that flips. 11 months ago (permalink)

The Nikon DL 18-50 is a really interesting compact camera with a 1-inch sensor and unprecedented 18-50mm-equivalent f/1.8-2.8 lens. Barring any major disasters it could be an incredible travel camera — there’s never been a high-quality pocketable wide-angle option like this before.

We don’t ask much. Just add the Nikon camera you used to take a photo. If …

Eugen Mezei: Yeah! All of these companies do want to make money. 13 months ago (permalink)

EssGee Photography™: Sad to hear that they discontinued the polaroid films for the medium format cameras because they are cool too. 13 months ago (permalink)

Hi there, I did a stupid thing- having loaded up a brand new roll of film int…

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Canon is pretty confident in its cameras’ autofocus abilities, placing fast-moving gymnasts in its booth so you can test for yourself.

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Does anyone know if the Nikon DK-20C diopter fits the F80? Thanks in advance!

The F6 is still in Nikon’s current lineup, but it isn’t being made in any conventional sense. Supposedly, Nikon has a warehouse of pre-built bodies that can be boxed and shipped with updated information as necessary. They may still have the components to build more if they get close to running out, but somehow, I don’t think that’s likely. The FM10 is OEM’d. Nikon doesn’t manufacture it, and it’s a Nikon only in name and lens mount. 28 months ago (permalink)

Brian Russell (LRPS):I suppose it’s just the Kool-aid talking, but if you have actual references and/or sources, please post them. Most of what I’ve read is that Alaris has seen an increase in film sales of about 5%/year since 2012, when the market bottomed out, or maybe it was 5% since 2012…either way is not a big number. I’ve heard interviews with Harman people where they have mentioned an increase in film sales, but they never attach numbers to those comments. And since Harmon is privately held by Pemberstone Ventures, there are no securities filings to back up anything they say. Fuji…well, Fujifilm has reported pretty substantial year-on-year increases in their Instax films. I’ve never seen any positive news about the rest of their film lineup, which they have been consolidating every year. And that is before the great outpouring of grief over FP-100C. So yeah. If you know any actual details, please lay them on us, because the news for us film shooters is rarely that good. 24 months ago (permalink)

ernie_nh7l: There are lot of sources of film labs than you think because I would know and I could find some of them in New York City. They are available through out the United States. 13 months ago (permalink)

It’s a cellular telephony device with integrated photographic apparatus.Be careful not to flip it shut, the hinges seem to snap when you do. 11 months ago (permalink)

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Well when you all leave the EU you can join us Yanks. We need more film. 😀 Originally posted 24 months ago. (permalink) inetjoker (a group admin) edited this topic 24 months ago.

> Marx recognised that capital tend to maximise its profit.What he may or may not have taken into account is that capital is rather risk-averse. If we leave out the American habit of strip-mining viable corporations to leave a bankrupt shell behind, then any factory that is producing film at a profit will keep going.Unfortunately, American Vulture Capitalism looks for businesses that have healthy reserves, strips them of it leaving them heavily geared (and leaving the bankers with bulging wallets), and then the slightest economic shock sends the victim corporation down the pan. If they hadn’t been raided, they would (probably) have had the reserves to ride it out. 25 months ago (permalink)

I doubt there will be (m)any new film cameras produced by the well-known brands in the future. But as long as the old cams continue to work and can be serviced this shouldn’t be a problem. I would also imagine a crowd funded new company would be able to produce new film cameras (probably based on old designs).The same should be possible with film as long as the old factory equipment is still usable. I am not sure how easy it would be to start producing film from scratch.If digital sensors should ever be able to outresolve film in regards to color (even 35mm color film often has better color resolution than digital) and also detail (large format film is still king here) then maybe it’s time for film to go. There’d of course still be enthusiasts who like to use the old cameras but in the end better digital technology would win. Originally posted 28 months ago. (permalink) Feininger’s Cat (Thanks for 800000 views!) edited this topic 28 months ago.

I guess I would have been more interested in facts. But at least I can be happy for Birmingham, or at least Ag Photographic. 24 months ago (permalink)

inetjoker: I have enough film in the refrigerator to last me a while. I do shoot both in color and black & white. 13 months ago (permalink)

As I leave, a visitor takes a 360-degree photo of the sunset with a Ricoh Theta.

Pentax isn’t shying away from the fact that its K-1 full-frame camera is long overdue — it’s showing off the prototype it first displayed at Photokina over fifteen years ago.

ernie_nh7l: You have a very good point of view. 11 months ago (permalink)

Show off your beauties. Your digital shots of your Nikon Film cameras go here no…

Canon’s new mid-range DSLR, the 80D, sits at the bottom of a pyramid of bigger models.

I have enough frozen film in a deep freezer and chemicals to last me until I die. 17 months ago (permalink)

billkirby73: For the professionals, hipsters, young people who discovered film and people like me won’t see the iPhone and the iPad as their main camera equipment. These devices take away the manual controls of photography so you could be the boss. These iPhones and iPads are just dumb devices when it come to controlling the light on your photo. I sometimes use my iPhone to take pictures when I don’t have my other cameras. Film photography could teach you with a SLR camera how to control lighting, composition and different types of equipment that you would need to make a great shot. DSLR are still strong in the market and in the professional realm as well. Instant film is a cool medium to use and little expensive for each film cartridge compare to a 35mm film. I have to thank the Impossible company and Fujifilm for keeping instant film alive. I wish they have not stop production of the Instant film for the medium format cameras. Instant film is fun and I have grown up on Polaroids. I have some Polaroid pictures at home when I was younger. I am thinking of getting a Polaroid camera and having fun with it like old time sake. 12 months ago (permalink)

I’ve been using Fujifilm’s upcoming X-Pro2 camera in recent weeks — full review coming soon — and there’s a new film simulation mode that aims to replicate the company’s Acros black-and-white emulsion. It’s a little more advanced than the film simulations that Fujifilm has included with its cameras for years; it’s more of an algorithm than a simple tone curve. The biggest difference I’ve noticed so far is the addition of a grain effect at higher ISOs, and generally it gives pretty contrasty yet balanced results.

Since I don’t get to shoot much black-and-white photography for The Verge, I thought this would be a good opportunity to try something new while testing the X-Pro2 out further. CP+ is a chaotic mess of a trade show, and it seemed even more packed than usual this year — not ideal conditions for monochrome, which tends to work best with simple compositions. Still, here’s what I came up with.

Brian Russell (LRPS): A Cell Phone Device that allows users to take photographs, videos, and sound recordings. You could download software to play games, use special utility software such as maps, time of day, alarm clocks, making notes, internet service and so on. It is mainly used to make phone calls by sound or video and sound at the same time. You can text message a friend or relative as well. Depending on model, they come in different sizes, features, colors and amount of builtin memory for content storage. Apple Computers is the parent company that makes the iPhone Devices. 11 months ago (permalink)

Instant film cameras are out-selling digital these days. It’s hard to see a future for the digital SLR when the cameras on iphones and ipads have gotten so good, they are more than adequate for 99% of the amateurs out there. petapixel.com/2017/04/04/death-digital-photography-know/ 12 months ago (permalink)

Question: Would film photography still exist in the future as long as we continue shooting film? Would the big manufacturers continue to make film cameras or we have to buy used ones to shoot film? Is Digital Photography the main stay in the photography media? 12:13AM, 10 April 2016 PDT (permalink)

Re-post from the Nikon F4 group (hoping this place is more active 🙂 ) I’m in…

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I felt bad taking this picture of Ilford quality black-and-white film with fake black-and-white film.

As long as there is a large enough market, there shall be someone catering for that and yes, of course Digital Photography is the main stay in the photography media! What did you think? Personally, I think, from a photography point of view, 35mm has very little going for it vs digital. It comes down to people wanting to use those wonderful film cameras. The same can probably be said for Medium Format, although film size/sensor size considerations do come into play in a few respects at least. Large Format is an even smaller niche, but still does something for me at least (probably 3/4 of my “good” photo output is 5×7″ film based). Aside from the ad-nauseam discussed technical issues, it just comes down to “workflow” though. I have loved using many, many film cameras and I do enjoy the Zen of the image making and also the darkroom process, However, film is largely an anachronism…. Technically, if not aesthetically, or artistically. But I really do hope (selfishly, because I am a child of my times) at least roll and sheet-film will be around for a little while yet. Having half a freezer full of low-speed films though means that I’m probably covered for the next few decades anyway….. an expensive, selfish hobby, if I calculate the electricity wasted on that….. Originally posted 28 months ago. (permalink) Digital Is So Yesterday, Darling edited this topic 27 months ago.

Leica still builds some. And Nikon doesn’t produce them anymore, it’s Cosina that does that for them.But why buy a new one when you can get the best full automatic SLR of all time , the Maxxum/Dynax 7 for very cheap on Ebay? I got mine nearly new for 250 bucks. That’s ridiculous! 28 months ago (permalink)

The only companies I hear about related to the film business: Impossible: but they can’t seem to get their product under $3/picture when shipping charges are included. Fuji: Instax only – otherwise periodic announcements of discontinuing their other products. Lomography: yes – always seem to be offering new film emulsions. 25 months ago (permalink)

inetjoker:There is plenty more to purchase them right now these days. I know where to get them. Ferrania Film Company is now making parachromatic film and Kodak announce the return of the ektachrome for both movie film and still film by the last quarter of the year. Check out the websites of these two companies. 13 months ago (permalink)

Feininger’s Cat (Thanks for over 333333 views!): Right now, I know Nikon is still making film cameras and one of them is the Nikon F6 and also the Nikon FM-10. I think as long as we keep buying these cameras than maybe they will keep producing them. 28 months ago (permalink)

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ernie_nh7l: No problem! You were hitting on the subject anyway. I have a smart phone too. Even the book that I am reading talks about this subject when it comes to marketing myself as a photographer. 11 months ago (permalink)

“Nikon Film Cameras” ; What’s an iPhone ? 11 months ago (permalink)

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I know the F80 is like an even poorer mans F100 😉 But I’m in the market for an …

Amazingly, Sony brought back its spinning toy eagle this year. I expect it to be a mainstay for decades to come.

Apparently Harman are now producing more film than ever in their entire history, and they only make black and white film. Fuji is also doing well, but I’m not sure Kodak are that much interested.There will always be a hard core of purists using film and there is a growing interest among the younger community, particularly art students (at least in the UK). The Royal Photographic Society has also started an analogue group in order to support further interest in film. I for one, have every confidence in it’s future. 24 months ago (permalink)

Many camera makers put models from their history on display. This is a Semi Olympus II from 1938.

“I sometimes use my iPhone to take pictures when I don’t have my other cameras.” This is your key sentence. Everything you say about iPhones and iPads is true. Much of it is true, also, for the automated later generations of film cameras, not all of which offered you the option of full manual control when you want it. Still, few of us were (until smartphone cameras got as good as they are now) able to carry competent cameras with us at all times. And now we can … and do. Your iPhone is not the greatest camera in the world. But chances are, it’s the one you have with you right now. My i-products certainly are not my best cameras. But I take many more pictures with them than I do with my “serious” digital and film devices. Pictures that would have never been taken in the old days. And a lot of these pictures are more than just OK. Originally posted 11 months ago. (permalink) ernie_nh7l edited this topic 11 months ago.

Trash-star thanks for your interest.I do not have any hard core sources or figures; most of my information comes from a growing business in Birmingham (AG Photographic) which deal exclusively in film products and processing. They can be found on the web and a visit may give you a better idea of whats happening in the film world, at least in the UK. There are several other specialist film dealers here who are in a state of steady growth. I have no idea of what’s happening elsewhere in the world. Lets hope it’s equally good news. 24 months ago (permalink)

Thanks. Sorry for going off topic a bit. 11 months ago (permalink)

I guess I have full control here as I am an Admin now. I want to give thank…

We are the future. Just keep shooting any buying film. 25 months ago (permalink)

Brian Russell (LRPS):Ferrania Film Company is now making parachromatic film and Kodak announce the return of the ektachrome for both movie film and still film by the last quarter of the year. Check out the websites of these two companies. This is the good news. 13 months ago (permalink)

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